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Question Posted By: Anonymous on 9-29-2007

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Make of Bike: H.D.
Model of Bike FXWG
Year of Bike 1985
Engine Size 103 C.
Other info on Bike
What's your question? After warm up oil pressure goes very low
Details: At cold start up oil pressure will be 35 to 40 pounds at 1000 RPM idle. As bike warms up pressure will drop to about 15 pounds at idle. After short run 10 miles or so pressure will drop to 5 pounds and will not come up past 5 pounds even at 2 to 3 000 rpm. Oil temp is about 150 degrees. Changed pressure gauge, pressure gauge is installed at tappet screen plug hole. Cleaned screen. Running 20W50 oil. Took oil pump off. Gears and chambers look good. replaced seal and gaskets, re-installed pump but no change. Am I missing something? Respect to all.

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  1. I don't trust oil pressure gauges on a Harley. Too much vibration to the gauge. Oil pressure readings are actually a reading of backpressure from all the fitted parts. As those parts wear...the oil flows from them easier. The easier it flows...the lower the pressure reading at the gauge. The important part here is FLOW.

    If things were going south...that oil temperature would double. When that idiot light starts coming on...or you can hear your lifter(s) start clacking...then it's time to be concerned. By: 47Knuckle-Dragger on: 9-29-2007



  2. "Thinking about changing back to hydraulics. What would be your suggestion?"

    Seriously? There's a lot of pretenders out there. I used to use Jim's stuff until I went from gaskets to actual working parts and they took a shit on one of my builds. Almost cost me a customer.

    I suggest you mic the lifter bodies to see what kind of clearances you have - then take a 0-1" mic with you to the dealership and mic the Evo lifters they have in stock and pick 4 you like. Yeah, I know, they'll have some pimply-faced little prick at the parts counter you'll have to deal with on this...but you'll get over it once your ride is up and running. Adjust the new hydraulics according to the book (dry).

    In my opinion...solids are for the dragstrip and cam profiles over 260 degrees total duration. Maybe one in 100,000 Harleys on the street can float a hydraulic lifter. I mean, who the fuck winds there motor past seven grand?!

    "Also, what actual oil pressure should be seen after warmup and what pressures are the "idiot light" sensors usually set for?"

    Maybe you didn't understand my explanation of what designates the oil pressure reading at the gauge. All things in good working order, the wear on your engine will designate the oil pressure at the gauge. That Evo's use a multigrade oil-viscosity also fucks with that formula. I can't give you a number concerning the gauge reading...and no one knows what the factory idiot-light sensor is set for. I'd assume zero backpressure. Idiot light are usually either an on or off situation.

    That help?

    By: 47Knuckle-Dragger on: 9-30-2007



  3. By the way...get a name here, join the site. I hate talkin' to the wind! :) By: 47Knuckle-Dragger on: 9-30-2007


  4. Thanks for your time and help KD. I can see it now, going into the HD dealerships around here and micing the lifters. If its not some chrome bolt on piece the kids working at the dealerships around here won't know what a lifter is. They'll freak out. I respect your no BS answers and suggestions. Bob By: bobp on: 10-1-2007


  5. I read "on the internet" somewhere stock idiot light was set to 3lbs.? By: JimmyD on: 10-1-2007


  6. Just to set my mind at ease, If you could idle your bike and check the oil flow returning to the oil bag. Hell the mess would be worth it to just loosen a line at idle and see if ya got good flow. By: Mark_Goff on: 10-2-2007


  7. Have disconnected return line and do get flow but I guess my question is: do I have enough pressure in this flow to get oil to the heads (rockers) etc. By: bobp on: 10-2-2007


  8. Well my expierience has been ya got flow ya good tom go. By: Mark_Goff on: 10-4-2007



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